Krugman a Keynesian? No way!

5 Mar, 2019 at 00:01 | Posted in Economics | 15 Comments

In his critique of MMT the last couple of weeks, Krugman has claimed Stephanie Kelton and other MMTers have got things terribly wrong:

Anyway, what actually happens at least much of the time – although, crucially, not when we’re at the zero lower bound – is more or less the opposite: political tradeoffs determine taxes and spending, and monetary policy adjusts the interest rate to achieve full employment without inflation. Under those conditions budget deficits do crowd out private spending, because tax cuts or spending increases will lead to higher interest rates.

Paul Krugman

And this comes from someone who calls himself a Keynesian economist! The problem with his view is, of course, that it has nothing at all in common​ with Keynes — and that is utterly and completely wrong!

What Krugman is reiterating here is nothing but a version of Say’s law, basically saying that savings have to equal investments and that if the state increases investments, then private investments have to come down (‘crowding out’). As an accounting identity, there is, of course, nothing to say about the law, but as such, it is also totally uninteresting from an economic point of view. As some of my Swedish forerunners — Gunnar Myrdal and Erik Lindahl — stressed more than 80 years ago, it’s really a question of ex-ante and ex-post adjustments. And as further stressed by Keynes about the same time, what happens when ex-ante savings and investments differ, is that we basically get output adjustments. GDP changes and so makes saving and investments equal ex-post. And this, nota bene, says nothing at all about the success or failure of fiscal policies!

For the benefit of Krugman and other latter-day​ mainstream economists, let’s see what a real Keynesian economist has to say about crowding out and government deficits:

Fallacy 2
Urging or providing incentives for individuals to try to save more is said to stimulate investment and economic growth.

Again, actually the exact reverse is true. In a money economy, for most individuals a decision to try to save more means a decision to spend less; less spending by a saver means less income and less saving for the vendors and producers, and aggregate saving is not increased, but diminished as vendors in turn reduce their purchases, national income is reduced and with it national saving. A given individual may indeed succeed in increasing his own saving, but only at the expense of reducing the income and saving of others by even more …

Saving does not create “loanable funds” out of thin air. There is no presumption that the additional bank balance of the saver will increase the ability of his bank to extend credit by more than the credit supplying ability of the vendor’s bank will be reduced … Attempted saving, with corresponding reduction in spending, does nothing to enhance the willingness of banks and other lenders to finance adequately promising investment projects. With unemployed resources available, saving is neither a prerequisite nor a stimulus to, but a consequence of capital formation, as the income generated by capital formation provides a source of additional savings.

Fallacy 3
Government borrowing is supposed to “crowd out” private investment.

The current reality is that on the contrary, the expenditure of the borrowed funds (unlike the expenditure of tax revenues) will generate added disposable income, enhance the demand for the products of private industry, and make private investment more profitable. As long as there are plenty of idle resources lying around, and monetary authorities behave sensibly, (instead of trying to counter the supposedly inflationary effect of the deficit) those with a prospect for profitable investment can be enabled to obtain financing. Under these circumstances, each additional dollar of deficit will in the medium long run induce two or more additional dollars of private investment. The capital created is an increment to someone’s wealth and ipso facto someone’s saving. “Supply creates its own demand” fails as soon as some of the income generated by the supply is saved, but investment does create its own saving, and more. Any crowding out that may occur is the result, not of underlying economic reality, but of inappropriate restrictive reactions on the part of a monetary authority in response to the deficit.

William Vickrey Fifteen Fatal Fallacies of Financial Fundamentalism

15 Comments

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  2. Lars,
    You should tell that to Stephanie Kelton, who is running the clock down on mainstream Keynesianism here:

    • Kelton does a remarkably good job of taking down Krugman’s schtick — “conservative economist with a liberal conscience” — showing how he zigzags between criticizing the conventional wisdom of mainstream economics and legitimizing it. She’s right; he should not get away with it.
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      One thing I do not quite grasp about MMT though is exposed in Kelton’s careful exposition of her argument that deficit spending, ceteris paribus, puts downward pressure on interest rates by flooding the banking system with cash reserves. That is: what is the function of a marketable national debt: selling notes and bonds of various duration to “finance” the deficit, soaking up the cash reserves into interest-bearing, “risk-free” securities of the monetary sovereign?
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      MMT, at times, seems to love flirting with the idea that it is “unnecessary” or possibly undesirable to have a marketable national debt. It seems like a big whole in their theory, to not explain the usefulness of a marketable national debt to a stable financial system.
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      References anyone?

      • Bruce, excess reserves in the system drive the overnight rate practically to zero. If supply is orders of magnitude above demand, price drops. That’s the theory part. Looking to reality, what we see is the Fed forced to offer interest on reserves in order to set a floor on rates, otherwise you’d see it drop even lower.

        MMT says the debt is not necessary, not that it it’s undesirable. We could fund all government expenditure through new money creation. However that money offers no return rate for savers. Hence it would be desirable to offer some savings vehicle with an interest rate.

      • Bruce, you can try http://bilbo.economicoutlook.net/blog/?p=35303 for Bill Mitchell’s description. MMT does say bond sales are not necessary for any financial reason for a currency issuing government. Treasury bonds are very useful for private financial institutions. But that doesn’t mean they are useful overall.

    • Mosler:

      I would cease all issuance of Treasury securities. Instead any deficit spending would accumulate as excess reserve balances at the Fed. No public purpose is served by the issuance of Treasury securities with a non convertible currency and floating exchange rate policy. Issuing Treasury securities only serves to support the term structure of interest rates at higher levels than would be the case. And, as longer term rates are the realm of investment, higher term rates only serve to adversely distort the price structure of all goods and services.

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      This does seem to me to be a theme in some MMT writing, and, remarkably ignorant. (Not that mainstream economics does any better on explicating how the national debt works to stabilize money.)

  3. Krugman says:
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    “…and monetary policy adjusts the interest rate to achieve full employment without inflation. Under those conditions budget deficits do crowd out private spending,……”
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    Vickrey says:
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    ” Any crowding out that may occur is the result, not of underlying economic reality, but of inappropriate restrictive reactions on the part of a monetary authority in response to the deficit.”
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    Its seems to me that these two statements are entirely consistent.

    • Exactly.

      What I don’t understand with Krugman is this idea that the short-term interest rate is set by the Fed, but at the same time reflects the “market” faithfully and so is not a policy choice.

  4. ” GDP changes and so makes saving and investments equal ex-post.”
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    They will always be equal ex post, however, whether they are at an equilibrium point or not depends on whether planned savings equals planned investment. When planned savings equals planned investment, an equilibrium point has be attained.

    • I love equilibrium. Yes, we never actually reach it in reality, and even if we did, you couldn’t prove it. Yes, the assumptions needed for general equilibrium are absurd, but my god do the curve look pretty in text books.

  5. It is worth noting that Vickery specifies in explaining both fallacies that idle resource are required.

    • We are in an age of oversupply. Shortages occur because of production throttling due to psychological factors. Physical shocks are insignificant.

      • Are we in an “age of oversupply”? Or, increasingly imperative global limits? At least since the OPEC crisis of 1974 initiated the macroeconomics of post Bretton Woods globalization, global limits on commodity supply have loomed over the policy space and this has intensified with consciousness that global warming and ecological collapse may require radical response or impose enormous costs. For some reason I cannot fathom, the global commodity price spike that resulted from Bernanke’s preliminary attempt in 2005-7 to head off the crisis of 2008 with a flood of liquidity is often airbrushed out of recent macro history.

        • The price spike was a panicked market reaction not a reflection of physical resource scarcity. Oil price spikes are not based on physical shortages but on expectations of psychological supply throttling. Climate change is the result of us burning the fossil fuels produced by a lush 15-degree warmer earth, to get us back to happier times …

      • My point was that Vickrey is saying crowding out is not an issue only when resources are not fully utilized.


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